Executive Summary
Why do 80% of executives believe AI is core to strategy whilst only 15% of employees agree? Marco Ryan, former Global Chief Digital Officer at BP and author of “Rewire or Retire: AI for Leaders”, argues that AI isn’t a technology problem—it’s a leadership issue. The disruption AI causes is enforced, not optional. Leaders who fail to adapt won’t survive it.
Core insights:
- AI is forcing change on sectors, organisations and individuals—this is as much about change management and mindset as technology
- DQ (Digital Intelligence) helps leaders benchmark their AI awareness—most executives are “nearsighted” when it comes to AI, not blind, but not seeing clearly either
- The inverted pyramid: AI knowledge often sits at the bottom of organisations—leaders need to find and empower “AI whisperers” in middle management
- Rear-view mirror leadership won’t survive: steering by last year’s data is like driving a Formula One car by looking only in the mirrors
- The 30/70 flip: with AI pattern matching, you may need only 30% of the facts to achieve higher fidelity than the old 80/20 rule required
- Don’t plug AI into a failed process—root cause analysis comes first
- The barrier to using AI is lower than people think: you just need to be able to talk or type
AI Is Forcing Change: Why This Is a Leadership Issue
“The challenge I think for people is to realise is that AI is forcing change on your sector and your organisation and on you the individual,” Marco observes. “And therefore, this is as much about change management and therefore about people and mindset as it is about technology.”
The disruption is not optional. In the old days of business, companies pushed products to market—build it, advertise it, sell it. Then came the evolution toward customer-centricity, adapting products to meet needs. Now AI forces a different kind of change entirely.
“You cannot just be a leader that takes a can of digital paint and paints over the cracks, the analogue cracks of your business. It will not survive the disruption that’s coming.”
This connects directly to what earlier Arkaro podcasts have explored. Stephen Wunker’s research on AI and the Octopus Organization revealed a striking gap: 80% of executives say AI is core to their strategy, yet only 15% of employees believe it to be true. They think it’s just fluff.
The implication is clear. If leadership treats AI as a technology initiative rather than a fundamental shift in how the organisation operates, employees will see through it. Words on slides won’t survive contact with reality.
DQ and Digital Curiosity: Why Most Leaders Are "Nearsighted"
Marco and his co-author Alastair Lechler developed the concept of DQ—Digital Intelligence—as a way for non-technical leaders to benchmark where they stand.
“Most executives are, let’s be generous, nearsighted when it comes to AI,” Marco explains. “I wouldn’t quite say they’re blind, but they’re nearsighted. They haven’t really understood the what, the if, the how, the implications of it.”
DQ works like an IQ test, scored out of 200, assessing both theoretical understanding and practical application. Leaders can compare themselves against peers by sector, geography, or role—CFOs against other CFOs, HR officers in the UK against HR officers in the US.
But the deeper point isn’t the score. It’s what the assessment reveals about curiosity.
“Leaders need to become more curious. The ‘what if’ question is fundamental to digital curiosity. What if a startup came in and created something better and disaggregated us?”
Marco illustrates this from his BP days, where they were building the UK’s largest electric vehicle charging network. The team constantly asked: what if a competitor emerged with something that ate their lunch?
“Most leaders are not digitally curious enough because they are embarrassed, they’re frightened, they’re worried, they’re overwhelmed perhaps by their lack of understanding of AI.”
The solution isn’t deep technical expertise. Marco advocates for T-shaped leaders—deep in one vertical domain but broad across the horizontal. “You don’t need to be the technical expert, but you do need to be able to ask the right questions. And more importantly, you need to understand the consequences of those questions.”
The Inverted Pyramid: Why Wisdom Doesn't Always Sit at the Top
One of the most striking insights from the conversation challenges traditional organisational hierarchy.
“Most of the people in the organisation who are deeply familiar with this, who have lived it, breathed it, are at the bottom end of the organisation,” Marco observes.
This creates what he calls the inverted pyramid. The people with native AI curiosity and capability sit in the larger, lower parts of the organisation. Traditional leadership sits at the thin top—experienced but often overwhelmed by the technology.
“You almost need to invert that kind of pyramid. And actually, it plays well to people who are servant leaders because they are there to serve, to empower, to let others lead.”
The practical implication: leaders need to seek out micro-learning moments. Go and find people who understand AI. Explore. Listen to those who may lack seniority but have the skills.
This doesn’t diminish the role of experienced leaders. AI doesn’t do judgement well—not yet. Human judgement, built on experience, remains essential. “The human in the loop is an integral and critical part of current AI deployment.”
But the dynamic has shifted. Senior leaders who aren’t technically literate still have a crucial role: stewarding the organisation, providing judgement, and creating space for others to accelerate.
Rear-View Mirror Leadership: Driving Forward by Looking Back
“For many, many years, organisations would go into meetings with 190 PowerPoint slides, of which about 180 are finance—comparisons to the same quarter last year versus this quarter.”
Marco doesn’t dismiss historical data as worthless. But he challenges its dominance.
“In a world where, just in the past year, AI has evolved dramatically—you’re going to sit in a board meeting and tell me I’ve got to look at last year’s decisions and last year’s environment to steer or predict what I’m doing now? That’s like trying to drive a Formula One car around a racetrack by just looking at your rear-view mirrors.”
The comparison is deliberate. Formula One demands forward vision, rapid adaptation, split-second decisions based on what’s ahead. Steering by what’s behind doesn’t work when the track keeps changing.
This echoes what Scott Anthony explored in the Arkaro podcast on Epic Disruptions—the “three ghosts” that haunt organisations and prevent them from responding to change. The ghost of the past keeps leaders anchored to historical patterns even when those patterns no longer predict the future.
“Organisations that don’t adapt will atrophy,” Marco warns. “And what AI is doing is acting almost like a steroid on the pace of that atrophying.”
Rewire or Retire: A Conscious Choice
The book’s title isn’t about age or tenure. It’s about a decision every leader must make.
“Rewire means: am I going to adapt myself and embrace AI and make it part of my leadership skill set? Retire doesn’t mean getting a watch after 40 years’ service. It means: how do I stand back and allow and deploy my skills to allow others to accelerate?”
Both choices have value. The “retire” path offers genuine contribution—stewardship around culture, values, experience, insight. This human judgement remains essential precisely because AI cannot yet replicate it.
But the choice must be conscious. “This is a decision you need to make,” Marco emphasises. Drifting along, hoping the disruption won’t arrive on your watch, isn’t a strategy.
“The number of times I’ve sat in boards and heard ‘yes, but Marco, you don’t understand the investors’ or ‘we’ve got to steer this for the markets’—I do understand. But those investors are savvy. They’re looking at whether an organisation is ready for disruption, has the right skills, the right capabilities, the right technologies. If it hasn’t, it will die.”
The Wild West: Root Cause First, Then AI
Asked how leaders should evaluate the flood of AI solutions hitting their inboxes, Marco offers a contrarian view.
“A lot of people are trying to plug AI solutions into a failed process or a problem they haven’t really addressed the root causes of. There’s nothing magical about this—it’s old-fashioned root cause analysis.”
The risk of applying AI to a broken process? “All you’ll do is exacerbate the problem that was originally there because AI will do it faster, better, quicker and harder. But your problem doesn’t go away.”
Where should leaders look for genuine AI opportunities? Marco suggests examining where processes are inefficient, where you’ve failed in the past, where data moves awkwardly between systems with too many joins. These friction points indicate where AI might genuinely help.
But he cautions against always chasing quick wins. “Some should be gnarly problems. They might take longer, but if you fix them, they will fundamentally change the outcome for your business.”
And perhaps most importantly: “You don’t necessarily need to buy this stuff in. A lot of this you can do yourself.”
The irony isn’t lost on him. “You can ask AI how to use AI to solve an AI-created problem.”
Finding Your AI Whisperers
Every organisation has them: people who are excited about AI, probably quite advanced at home, but forced into what Marco calls “a digital or AI lobotomy” when they come to work because security policy restricts them to approved tools only.
“Find that AI whisperer. They’re probably in the middle management layer. They’re probably a bit frustrated. They’ve probably been there 10, 15 years. They really understand your business and are really good at experimenting with AI.”
The advice: give them freedom. Make them the people who tackle that first use case. Let them demonstrate what’s possible.
This connects to Ray Eitel-Porter’s observation in a previous Arkaro podcast about shadow AI—research showing up to 90% of employees use personal AI accounts for work whilst corporate tool usage languishes at 40%. The curiosity exists. The capability exists. Organisations just need to channel it rather than suppress it.
The 30/70 Flip: How AI Changes Decision-Making
Marco shares a striking insight from Lieutenant General Sir Tom Copinger-Symes, formerly the UK military’s Chief Digital Officer.
Traditional military doctrine held that commanders needed about 80% of the facts before making a decision—the familiar 80/20 rule applied to information gathering.
“In an AI-fuelled world, it’s almost reverse. It’s probably about 30/70. You can have about 30% of the facts and the pattern matching and the algorithms can fill in so much that you probably get to a higher level of fidelity and a higher level of understanding with a lower level of original fact than you did in the old days.”
This represents a fundamental shift in how decisions get made. AI’s strength lies in pattern matching and prediction. With sufficient AI support, leaders may need less initial data to reach sound conclusions—not because they’re guessing, but because AI fills gaps that previously required extensive information gathering.
“AI is changing the dynamics around how much fact you need—not the amount, but the breadth—to get a really high guaranteed outcome.”
Slow AI and Augmentation: Using AI to Ask Questions
The conversation turns to what Professor Vlad Glaveanu calls “slow AI”—resisting the dopamine fix of quick answers in favour of using AI to generate better questions.
“I love this idea of slow AI,” Marco responds. “When I sit in the car and I’m using AI to think through strategy, it’s asking me questions. Because I tell it to. I say: ask me questions to provoke the discussion so that it becomes a conversation rather than the dopamine fix of ‘give me an answer.'”
This distinguishes lazy AI use from intelligent AI use. Lazy AI means asking it to do all the work—poor prompts yielding poor outputs. Intelligent AI means using it as a sparring partner, a strategy buddy, a tool for exploration rather than a shortcut to conclusions.
“Where we go to this idea of the human in the loop—where you’re using AI where human experience or human judgement matters—and you’re starting to use augmented AI, that’s really interesting. You’re saying: what is AI better at than humans? What are humans better at than AI? And if I merge those together and put riding instructions around it, then it’s a walled garden that is very different.”
The prompting quality matters enormously. Marco contrasts a lazy prompt—”rewrite this paragraph to make it better”—with a rich one that specifies audience, style, references, and constraints. The outputs differ dramatically.
The Damascus Road Moment: How One Board Pack Changed Everything
Marco shares a vivid example of AI’s potential to transform how leaders work.
“I was asked to talk to the board of a large multinational about AI. I noticed three of them had iPads and four had the usual Amazon forest of PowerPoint. I asked the chairman: how many pages, and how long did it take you to read it?”
The chairman admitted he’d received the pack ten days earlier but hadn’t read every page. He’d made notes but felt least comfortable with the sessions on digital transformation and technology.
“I said: right, I’ve got hold of your board pack. I’ve put it in a clean area, ring-fenced so it’s not going outside this virtual room. I’m going to write you a prompt.”
The prompt asked AI to act as a board member, summarise key points from each paper, generate deep insights, develop tough questions, anticipate likely answers, and suggest follow-up thoughts for the executives.
“Within seconds, it spouted out the response. He said: that’s impossible, it can’t have read all that in that time. I said: no, it has.”
The chairman looked at the output. “But this is far better than I’ve produced.”
“I said: it’s not that I’m doubting your experience. But the process you were going through—you didn’t apply your knowledge or insight. You were suffering through the boring work of creating summaries, which in most cases you’d ask an assistant to do.”
Marco describes it as a Damascus Road moment—a sudden realisation of how AI could augment existing work. The board meeting still mattered. The human dynamics remained unchanged. But the preparation became radically more efficient, allowing the meeting to focus on substance rather than slogging through summaries.
“Now the board meeting was very different—getting to the nitty gritty of the facts rather than people presenting with blank faces, not sure how it’s been received, months of preparation, just inefficient.”
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Why This Matters Now
The choice Marco presents is stark but not unkind. AI disruption is enforced, not optional. Leaders can rewire—embracing AI as part of their skill set, becoming digitally curious, inverting the pyramid to learn from those with native capability. Or they can retire—not leaving, but stepping back to provide stewardship, judgement, and wisdom whilst others accelerate.
What they cannot do is ignore it.
“Organisations that don’t adapt will atrophy. And they will die.”
The barrier to starting is lower than most people think. You don’t need to understand the technology deeply. You need to be curious. You need to ask “what if” questions. You need to find your AI whisperers and give them room to experiment.
And you need to make a conscious choice about which path you’re taking.
Listen to the Full Conversation
Marco Ryan and Mark Blackwell explore AI leadership, digital curiosity, and the rewire-or-retire choice in depth.
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About the Speakers
Marco Ryan is author of “Rewire or Retire: AI for Leaders” and “51 Essential AI Terms for Leaders”. He has over 30 years of experience in digital transformation, having served as Global Chief Digital Officer at BP—leading one of the world’s largest digital resets—and in senior leadership roles at Wärtsilä, Thomas Cook, and Accenture. He is a seasoned board member and digital strategist.
Website: https://www.marcoryan.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoryan/
Mark Blackwell is founder of Arkaro, specialising in change management, innovation and commercial excellence for the agriculture, food and chemicals industries. Arkaro’s collaborative “do it with you” approach works through four steps: Understand, Co-create, Enable, Sustain. We don’t just coach—we get on the pitch with you.
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Related Reading from Arkaro
On AI & Human Collaboration:
- How to Use AI Without It Going Wrong – Ray Eitel-Porter on AI governance as an enabler of innovation, not a blocker
- Niels van Hove on Human AI Collaboration in Supply Chain Planning – Why the competitive difference lies in human-AI collaboration, not automation alone
- Why AI Implementations Fail – and How PEOPLE Can Fix It – The SPACES framework explains why human factors predict AI success or failure
- AI & Strategy: Why Implementation Remains Human – Why collaborative change management becomes more critical as AI capabilities advance
On Change Management & Culture:
- Why Smart Companies Miss Disruption: The 3 Ghosts Blocking Innovation – Scott Anthony on the ghosts of past, present and future that prevent organisations responding to change
- The Neuroscience of Collaboration: Why Your Brain Still Thinks It’s on the Savannah – Hilary Scarlett’s SPACES model explains why technology adoption triggers threat responses
- Constraints, Playfulness & Ethics: 3 Lessons for Leading in the AI Age – Dr Vlad Glaveanu on why “slow AI” counters the rush to solutions
On Innovation & Strategy:
- AI & the Octopus Organization with Stephen Wunker – Why 80% of executives believe AI is core to strategy whilst only 15% of employees agree
- 70% of People Are Wrong About Creativity – Yale researcher Dr Zorana Ivcevic Pringle on why constraints enable innovation
External Resources & Further Reading
Book: “Rewire or Retire: AI for Leaders” – Available on Amazon
Book: “51 Essential AI Terms for Leaders” – Available on Amazon
Marco Ryan’s website: https://www.marcoryan.com
Marco Ryan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoryan/
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